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 Post subject: Butter Poached Meats - It is @#$& wonderful!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:10 pm 
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Hi,

A few years ago, two new roasting techniques appeared, reverse searing and sous vide. Last May, I was at a private dinner at Michael Mina's Bourbon Steak in Georgetown. The scene is political power broker with a wine list of a few thousand bottles from $38 to my house. The lead staff can be a little stiff (I selected the wines for our party of 30 people.) but the highly experienced waiters are wonderful.

This restaurant is known for butter poaching dry aged Prime/Yaygu beef and it was incredible. The meat is slowly poached in butter to maybe 100 degrees and finished in a hot wood fired oven. I frequently dry age Prime beef and just don't achieve the succulence of the butter poaching/wood fired oven.

Is it realistic to have 5 pounds of butter reserved for a two inch rib steak once a quarter? I am tempted but it's just not right.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:14 pm 
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Wait, so is this like Kobe beef burgers? I heard those are really good. :twisted:

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I also was reading keller (I think it was, pretty sure) who mentioned resting steaks in butter. I had a steak at Delmonico Steak House (LV) that I swear was partly done in butter (and delicious). Keller also poaches lobster in butter, using a circulator a la sous-vide, but that one is kind of obvious.

I've been very tempted....


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Butter poached and sous vide are not mutually exclusive. OMG, my arteries are hardening as I type this....

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TLC Tim wrote:
Wait, so is this like Kobe beef burgers? I heard those are really good. :twisted:

Close enough...beef cooked sous vide is incredibly tender. The most recent Open Table review we received at the restaurant claimed our filet was as tender as Kobe.

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Amy wrote:
TLC Tim wrote:
Wait, so is this like Kobe beef burgers? I heard those are really good. :twisted:

Close enough...beef cooked sous vide is incredibly tender. The most recent Open Table review we received at the restaurant claimed our filet was as tender as Kobe.

Amy


You missed my joke. I was trying to needle TOT. I've never had it, but I know about sous vide. But Kobe beef is famous for tenderness and intramuscular fat. So grinding it for a burger misses the entire point. I believe Anthony Bourdain is particularly eloquent on the subject.

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Ah well, I can't always be on top of my game. ;)

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Paul Kierstead wrote:
...I had a steak at Delmonico Steak House (LV) that I swear was partly done in butter (and delicious)...


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I ended up in LV twice last year for work. The first trip I hit craftsteak and enjoyed the best steak I have ever had the pleasure of eating so I tried Delmonico on the next trip; it was also excellent, but not as good as craftsteak.

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Tom Collichio (sp?) is good at his craft, no pun intended. I love going to Craftbar in NYC, and Craft but the latter only for special occasions.



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I've poached both lobster and shrimp in butter, and they were heavenly. But I've never tried it with any kind of red meat, although I do top a steak or filet with a big pat of butter before serving, ala Julia.

Poaching kobe or wagyu in butter really sounds over the top - but I'd be happy to go there!

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