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Tim
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Post subject: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:21 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:36 am Posts: 894 Location: Springfield, IL
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Hi, Kenji actually "went of the wagon" (no vodka) for his Food Lab article on Serious Eats about the science and technique for pie crust. This is compelling and is a must read. There is also a wonderful comment about ownership of recipes which reminds me of Rock-n-Roll songs in the 1950's. Yes, I am ancient. In any case take a look at this: Link to SeriousEats Tim
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KSyrahSyrah
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:40 pm |
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Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:48 am Posts: 818 Location: Near Ithaca, NY
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Tim wrote: Hi,
There is also a wonderful comment about ownership of recipes which reminds me of Rock-n-Roll songs in the 1950's. Yes, I am ancient.
Tim "Don't Be Cruel?"
_________________ A gourmet who thinks of calories is like a tart who looks at her watch. - James Beard
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Da Bull Man
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:50 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:21 am Posts: 1403 Location: Six Shooter Junction, Texas
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Gotta love CI / ATC.
* Unfortunately, due to some legally binding document I signed, ironically, as the creator of the recipe but not the owner, I am now the only person in the universe who is not allowed to write about it. Never mind that. You can read about the science of it over at The Kitchn. Gotta love lawyers.
_________________ To do is to be [Descartes] To be is to do [Voltaire] Do be do be do [Sinatra].
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Paul Kierstead
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:34 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:45 pm Posts: 1531 Location: Ottawa, ON
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Not that unusual. I've signed NDA's and non-compete agreements signed over numerous patents and tons of other IP. The holder of those is always free to publish, etc as they please but I stay mum. When I worked in security, I knew guys who wrote reports but weren't allowed to see them after since they had been classified at too high of a level, despite them being the author. Crazy stuff.
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Paul Kierstead
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:43 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:45 pm Posts: 1531 Location: Ottawa, ON
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Also, fantastic article. I knew the fat-coating-flour had to be wrong (it was observably so), but don't have the knowledge to workup the mechanism etc that it really was, nor workup an alternative. Very nice work. I must try it.
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Darcie
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:57 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:18 pm Posts: 1244
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Kenji does it again!
I have been thinking about using the Beaterblade on my KA mixer to cut the fat into the flour for pie crusts. I noticed that when I added butter to a buttercream the effect of the rubber blade against the side of the bowl mimicked fraissage. Do any of you make pie crust in the mixer (with or w/o a Beaterblade)? I'll probably try it anyway, what's the worst that could happen?
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TheFuzzy
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:11 pm |
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Darcie wrote: I'll probably try it anyway, what's the worst that could happen? The end of civilization as we know it. 
_________________ The Fuzzy Chef Serious Chef iz Serious!
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Tim
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:22 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:36 am Posts: 894 Location: Springfield, IL
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Hi,
I think the idea of fraisage with a soft spatula is inspired. No heat and the same motion.
Tim
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Amy
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:36 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:37 pm Posts: 3404 Location: Telluride, CO
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Like Paul, I've signed a number of NDAs and non-competes in my career, so find it not at all unusual Kenji can't write about the CI recipe. Frankly, BCP would be stupid to do it any other way.
Loved the article. Thanks for the link Tim!
Amy
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ivy
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Post subject: Re: Pie Crust - More genius from Kenji Alt Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:45 am |
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:09 am Posts: 355 Location: Newton, MA
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Quote: Like Paul, I've signed a number of NDAs and non-competes in my career, so find it not at all unusual Kenji can't write about the CI recipe. Frankly, BCP would be stupid to do it any other way. Many times these are time limited and expire after x amount of time. Wonder if this is so for Kenji, or if CK has to be deceased (not to be morbid or wish it upon him), just thinkin'.
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