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talanhart
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Post subject: Palate Fatigue Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:23 pm |
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I read something about this the other day pertaining to food, but Google comes up with a lot of sites referring to wine tasting or overtasting. Is anybody familiar with this term?
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Tim
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:46 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:36 am Posts: 894 Location: Springfield, IL
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In my day...
...in economics, we discussed product sales volume being affected by a "declining propensity to consume". An individual can only make use so many cars. You can only "taste" so many wines. After 10 beers, you are affected by that declinninnngg posphenshitty to conshuum!
Overtasting (being overserved) reminds me of a friend who explained his questionable statement saying he had "merely over-spoke". We were all relieved that he had not been incorrect.
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TheFuzzy
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:20 am |
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Todd,
Well, palate fatigue is very familiar to wine tasters. Myself, I can only seriously taste about 7 to 9 wines in an afternoon and expect to seriously evaluate them, even if I'm spitting.
The same would apply to different tasting foods. In fact, I'm convinced that's why top San Francisco and New York food critics love such bizarre, inedible concoctions from avant-garde chefs; they have palate fatigue and simply can't taste another risotto milanese or trout muniere no matter how well done it is.
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Lindsay
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:43 am |
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Actually there is a side issue to this that was proven time and time again during all the tastings (both products and recipes) we did at Cook's. When the palate gets fatigued (or even not), it goes back to familiarity. And in many cases, that was how childhood memories--I remember one butterscotch pudding recipe that they were working on (the final recipe was unbelievable but they chose not to publish it because it involved making caramel and that was judged to be too tricky for the readers). But so few people—even the professional cooks— had ever had homemade butterscotch pudding that it was incredibly tough to get past the Jello memory.
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Tim
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:33 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:36 am Posts: 894 Location: Springfield, IL
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Lindsay,
This reminds me of the "canned pineapple syndome" which undid Hunt's development of un-burned ketchup.
Tim
ps: Mr. Kimball almost broke his arm patting himself on the back in Costco's magazine. He invented the reverse sear and the concept of slow cookiing, my a__!
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Amy
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:18 pm |
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He is more than welcome to my broken arm...
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Amy
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:24 pm |
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Lindsay wrote: I remember one butterscotch pudding recipe that they were working on (the final recipe was unbelievable but they chose not to publish it because it involved making caramel and that was judged to be too tricky for the readers). Why am I not surprised? "Let's dumb everything down as it's not 'profitable' to be aspirational." As if caramel is aspirational...Oy. Amy
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Tim
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:35 pm |
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Amy wrote: He is more than welcome to my broken arm...
Amy Maybe he'll take credit for that in his next posting from Vermont. He can call you Prunella,the local schoolmarm. cc
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Darcie
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:08 pm |
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Lindsay wrote: Actually there is a side issue to this that was proven time and time again during all the tastings (both products and recipes) we did at Cook's. When the palate gets fatigued (or even not), it goes back to familiarity. And in many cases, that was how childhood memories--I remember one butterscotch pudding recipe that they were working on (the final recipe was unbelievable but they chose not to publish it because it involved making caramel and that was judged to be too tricky for the readers). But so few people—even the professional cooks— had ever had homemade butterscotch pudding that it was incredibly tough to get past the Jello memory. You don't happen to have that recipe, do you? I loves me some butterscotch pudding. I made the one from Top Chef a few years back and it was pretty good but I'm always open to new ideas!
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Lindsay
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Post subject: Re: Palate Fatigue Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:32 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 562 Location: Winchester, MA
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Sorry, since it wasn't published there's no way to get it--you might try making some vanilla pudding and adding caramel and go from there--I have faith that you can come up with something pretty great.
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